Where men drown thinking they can walk on water

How kind of you to let me  come!

 Saying the right words and wearing the right clothes maketh noone - striving after such things  empties those who invest there . How many changes of clothing before  Malcolm's exposed and outta there ?






Malcolm Turnbull has got where he always wanted to be .
We didn't ask him-- he just took the job so how right is he to assume office ? to talk of honor and humility ?
History of real progress to the best and most livable communities shows us that the only effective way  men can walk where angels fear  to tread is to do it lightly , carefully and with much advice .He's had plenty of years to take advice , but is he there because he thinks he can walk on water and is not afraid - how dangerous is that ?   Haven't seen much of the required humility to date.We  live in hope .


Tony Abbott has been treated badly because the personal attacks  are more a reflection of the unhappy state of mind of the people than anything about him . I can't see why Tony isn't the better leader because he knows about being strong in the face of opposition, totally  unfair criticism and a huge barrage of it.( esp lately )    As for whose best at  consulting - only their wives might know ; what man is not deaf until you shake him ?

What does Malcolm know and will he turn out to be a puppet , a prig or on a personal journey with his own name all over the landscape ?
Humility will take you places where I fear Malcolm has never been - I wish him well none the less . I hope not for the first time in his life , this man whose groomed himself to be popular , will actually say and do things that are not . That s what  thinking caring people want him to do .He can of course take a more popular choice .
That will mean of course that unlike Tony Abbott , he's taken the job,  and not earned it.

I hope for our countries sake,  he doesn't hit the ground with a thud , Good on Tony for trying .

Fooled by the simpleminded -- the equality trump card

Bernard Shaw didn't agree with the converted Chesterton on many things ,but he did on the dumb simplicity adopted by  progressives of their day ( Chesterton notes - "not discussed enough" even 100 years ago - wow )   .
Orwell didn't agree with Christians on much either but he agreed the equality card is no trump . He insists its dangerous and incomplete - it comes back to haunt us so easily. In our own day Dalrymple is on target,  even if the church isn't .
Idealism is not only dangerous,  but  like all failed and simple ideology, it costs the earth . It throws out what's good in favor of what doesn't work. The popularity of a simple idea with polys and the public is completely understandable,  so please put your mind into gear and read the above highly engaged authors. Resist the quick fix 

All Bernard Shaw's  women'  have to prove themselves ,To get the respect ticket and use it as a trump card is wrong  As Chesterton points out,  these two thinkers  agreed , against the common logic of women's movement promoters of their day,  that for women to be actually treated equally,  no one should use the respect card for the group . Noone is good but God alone. These are hard but CLEAR  lessons for our day when the insatiable demand for respect is threatening the definition of marriage and parenthood for children .  

• We can all fall for our own logic of "disadvantage " . To take with one hand our diversity and uniqueness and ask for more because we insist on seeing it as " disadvantage" Having  no option to discipline the arguments , our sentimental public  servants do nothing but handout cheques to the " disadvantaged " Unsustainable . 

• Maybe this incomplete view of nature and natural processes is  at the heart of the stalemate in many family court decisions as well ?

This well researched review of domestic violence shows how shallow  many of the discussions have been for a long time .http://www.weightiermatter.com/divorce/the-heretic-of-mainstream-feminism-linda-mills-and-the-courage-of-a-scientistsaint/6303

Be warned - the progressives,  by taking the position they have,  are in denial about the really important role of aggression and anger in resolving conflict. To not normalise angers and aggression is to deny solutions to millions of modern families and couples for whom sitting on their emotions means depression , suicide and silent stalemates . Women Converts to Islam site "english maternalism" as  the sentimental rubbish thats killing the West's real dealings with reality - and they are right .  Wrath is not wrong as the unthinking unscientific  reactionaries would have it

The only idealism we can tolerate is that which works:  Be angry but makeup in bed  Ephesians 4:26

Mere momentum is dangerous

Like this
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-06-11/green-modern-politics-all-crisis-and-no-solution/6537096

Watch out for coming series on democracy
Time we tested those who simple faith in it  has led them to divorce democracy and republicanism.Tweet

Government by decree..Erosion by degree

RE EVERYONE should describe their commitment using the best and most ideal words available ( Bill Shorten's private bill to go before Parliament this week )
Summary : If it "works "--its only in the short term . But that all that matters to some progressives - statistical proof of progress
Might make a few FEEL better for doing something for the apparently oppressed, but , in the long term it will do nothing to make the aggrieved feel better .
Standing against this move , on the other hand , would make us proud of our leaders , the  fathers and mothers of Australia who showed us the primary way .Its time to stop this dumb predictable rot of the Fabian reactionaries . It will cost the earth in paperwork and political correctness( like the womens and aboriginal movements before them) and if you want a clincher --we in the street will go back to calling a spade a spade-as is our God given right .
Picture Bill shorten in the Emperors new clothes .


Only the tyrannically inclined think they will move society by decreeing we use only their words. Men , Praise God , were born free to speak free  !

Fabians badly need a reminder that there wonderful faith in progress is often only as empty and hollow as it ever was  ; And as boring
Good friend Gilbert reminds us about George B Shaw " every new religion bores us with the same stale rhetoric about closer fellowship and the higher life " 
" a progressive was now to mean , not a man who wanted democracy ( no the rule of the noisy in 2015?) , but a man who wanted something newer than democracy .. not a man who wanted parliament or a republic , but a man who wanted anything that he hadn't got "


Giving gays what they want,  like the aborigines and women before them, is destined ( as a progressive might say )  to make them happy ..... yeah?? The pleasant perfume of this simple equation will evaporate  .

Will it make the complainants happy ? Of course not ( Voltaire had the brains to laugh at this nonsense  knowing as he did that listening to their noise was a waste of time ( and in our case paper and contrived conversation at the dinner table - - Candide
 Politicians and wannabes need to grow up and play the game as it should be played - sticks and stones  don't break my bones 
Sure , it will appease the noisy ones in the family .  That is,  of course, what we do these days -- doesn't make it right . Infact, it makes us the objects of ridicule by our own children and the children of other faiths ( why are thousands of young women in Britain becoming Muslims? )
Yes too bad about the rest of the family -- they can go to hell . Noise has great survival value if you believe the reactionaries .

Will Bill's efforts work ? yes sure i  agree in the short term they could . People will feel feel better for a moment ."called algophobia ?" We have been generous " We  have listened to the noise of those unhappy and have given them what they want ." 

Short term gain long term pain 
EVERYONE should describe their commitment using the best and most ideal words available  That will mean that after a while we will have no ideal    Thanks Bill Shorten.

Why is problem solving so simple on the ABC ?

Amazing what our wannabes can achieve in a weekend   ( Sunday 24th May 2015)
-  Bill Shorten will find  a home for the latest group of starving boat people ( instead of flying and carting them around the country like his predecessor)
- ABC knows population control will really help  the starving boat people and old folks unhappy with their lives .  Population control  is their answer to everything ?
-- Q&A will tackle a least 3 issues in one hour tommorrow ; moving on inevitably  once answers are found .
-- Gays  persecution will stop once they get treated like the Irish voted to treat them - well at least in writing .  No longer a fence with boundareies to protect the weak ; ust a badge like ( we are all Irish here and allowed to do whatever we like)
--  Senate doesn't need to support our spending- Its got other priorities .The priorities of the highly personal.
-- give everyone a conscience vote . That would stop the noisy lobby group from wanting more notice and being treated less badly .  Have a royal commission  that will find answers(b to why 300 people died cause they lived in the tinder dry forest)
--Give everyone a conscience vote . Say on allowing religiuos groups from being able to do and be what they like - we might have to change a few laws - like acceptable reasons for homicide and revenge;  Change  laws that assume all people are created equal  to all people are created according to the amount of good DNA they possess.

The reality is that those in news are anything but effective -- which is why we see this confused chatter and fanaticism ,.

Where to Invest in Science ?

RE  A first for Q&A   ABCTV --a  panel of scientists

Result : a great and stimulating education session - real Q&A
Response : must have more of them !

The short version for the political process
Same as always ;

• PCM ( Physics , Chemistry and Maths )

Finally Q&A have done what they should have done years ago -
Proper respect for authority : Let scientists speak --instead of letting  non-scientists speak for them.
Corollary : Be suspicious of researchers responding to recent problems ,Side products of the above pure sciences ( PCM remain the essential building blocks  -  Doherty !)Accept that the  key to sound investment in science is NOT in picking winners or suddenly answering often intractable problems . Dohery's point about "duty of care" rather than "chasing the hare" must be observed . Real progress is slower than many want to know 

We have lots of shells....... but maybe no wheels

Qualification: Considering that way Q&A commonly confuses , it would have been great if the scientists on the panel got together before the Q&A session so they could make a more unified case for a way forward on what to do to sell science. we scientists can be longwinded when audience should get it SIMPLE.

Surprisingly none of thepanel mentioned  the fact that the amount of research money being dissipated in the name of science is now a huge problem . Its so bad that the anathema of "recent" as adjective to research reports  on media is NOT as as it should be---- a reason to suspect it .

After all ,All on panel KNOW good research is built in/from a big stable building . The results are not to the credit of a bright appendage but the stale old insitution .( even robot classes in high school)
The one thing they agreed on ( Physics, Chemistry Maths and Stable research/teaching  houses )  is he thing that Polys too must insist on .
Environmental research has been dissipated by polys giving them constant name changes and them stupidly trying to pick a better boundary than they do for theory and applied - Its parliaments problem.  
 People doing Stats on the latest theory of disadvantage and social science cause and effect need the discipline of tough maths and a history of study in the organisation .
My questions .
1, Why did we miss opportunity to hit hard and cleanly .Why didn't Chubb call for  a consensus on this before the meeting, he knows the problem but did not insist on the first element of a solution ( as much agreement about it as is human possible) Gong on the decades its taken to get such a productive and stimulating debate by real scientists this could be ( we hope not )  be a preliminary to a good conference of this the  rarest of opportunities in Monday nights entertainment.
2 The opportunity to promote the positives lost,The concept of vision well put by a few . An example : We have had for thirty years the chance to sell sound development and environment policy to the world - but its being eroded by a whole of careless bickering by a whole range of people who only know enough science to be dangerous . If that's YOU take scientists who know their stuff seriously and mind your own business and theirs!
Other questions
These subjects were always hard so what's changed since these people were inspired to do pure science?

1. Science talk has become so popular that people who don't actually practice try to do it . Doherty was very clear and correct on these basic principles which means basic science must be supported at the expense of many of the namers and gamers ( Biology , sports) . The experts were agreed - if we have the choice,  leave the science rewards and winner pickers  to someone else .
2. We should be proud of the narrow and prime  focus given to Physics  Chemistry and Maths in The 1970's and 1980's .(the people on stage were only a few of many AUSSIES  who have built well on PCM base insisted on before we let science go feral
3. No use blaming the polys altogether. IF scientists sang with the same tune today the politicians might follow . The tragedy is--- if the trumpet is not sounded clearly - neither the audience or the polys get the real message . KISS stupid 

What do polys really know about solving another countries problems

Maybe the World Wars mightn't have started or lasted as long  if armies and polys weren't driven  to  jump in with solutions to another countries problems at a moments notice .
What is that moment ? That moment is the moment we hoped would never happen. When governments leave it till its too late to do anything else . Clearly prevention and understanding would help as would early intervention based on that knowledge ,

Does that knowledge exist ? PROBABLY somewhere. 

Do polys know it? . Not according to their inaction before the moment or there lack of logic at the moment .  

lets go to Today.
Iraq intervention crisis     The Code words are bolded but are they magic or what?
 Hon Julie Bishop  (Australia) thinks we can educate young people to not be radicalised , the presumption is that the young people are dumb and easily led . Well maybe a few  but you only have hope for changing their minds if you really understand what is on their minds and don't treat them as dumb . Poly 1 lost the point. 

Secretary of State for the USA( America)  says he looking for best practice as if the only way to solve problems is with some sort of sacred process ( modelled by industrywe presume but definitely as technological fix  ) . People are not machines my friend . Go back and talk to each other and people on the ground or observers before you offend thinking people  with a label -- like Julie's  Poly 2 lost the point

The family at war with itself needs more than anything else--- understanding from outsiders . Their home is being wrecked and they probably really don't know why . Australia and America   at least have some idea of where of home might be in the future because they have people who understand about sheep, cropping and retailing. Never is  a better time for objectivity,,  but who is helping our polys ACT early on this ?

Some say  wars would never trouble the West if the determinists had  there way . I say its them that prevent early intervention , so their simple ideas are more of a problem than they or those hiding in closets like to think.

1. The determinists amongst us hope that if the fight is about too many people trying to live on the one patch,  the problem would go away if they just killed each other .
2. the determinists would have it that if we can stay away , the problem will go away . The Germans nearly had their way because the determinists  nearly got their way in the good old USA in the 1940's 
3. the determinists treat people as expendable . Most countries can be fun to live in if they respect every one in them and use them to do something. Which side are the ideologues of the West on?  

No such blinkered faith is  for us - we have a tradition of trying to talk things through out of respect for people made in the image of God . That works .
OK so if we accept as the USA are NOW saying that its not about military intervention--- what is about ?
The advantage we have for a warring country/ countries is we can be a bit objective about what they are fighting over ; yet the dumb idea of the democrats is to pretend that if we give them elections they will suddenly stop fighting and they will have a wonderful thing called a democracy . Culture control is such a poor substitute for real respect ( which we need to model better)  .
So don't ever run that quick fix crap again.
 Are the fighters who come from Australia being radicalised? 
No it is  not just simply that  ; Julia's false assumption is that religions create a haze ( thats 'easily removed ) when it in reality the framework in a world view is impossible to easily shift - it often creates clarity in confusion ( it still may not work but it is attractive when people are desperate for answers )  The young people on SBS last night  have their minds switched on and until you talk about the realities of arguments in their own country,  they are not going to listen.like the determinists is ignoring the critical role that worldview can and must play .Talk of " values ' just doesn't cut it when war is on - infact why talk at all ? Listening works better .
Our boys went to war when there was nothing better to do back home . They are doing the  same,

 What we can do to help them  is to help  find an economy ( not a political system ) that works . They don't know it but their commitment to the land issue  is not helping them  find new homes. The fact that the West can't see that means both Outsiders and  Insiders are in a fog over what is happening and what to do about it !      The  West has lost its zest for intervention and dumb determinism must share some blame


The problem is as big in the West as it is in the east .
If you are wise you stay out ; If you are really wise,  you watch closely . If you are really really wise you wait ; , If you are really really really really wise you wait and act in the moment you choose - not the one the world chooses for you .

What starts wrong goes wrong quicker  The problem is perspective and the solution is perspective ; Neither side have any but one side SHOULD HAVE it  .



 I have clearly not considered all the matters - hardly one.