What is that moment ? That moment is the moment we hoped would never happen. When governments leave it till its too late to do anything else . Clearly prevention and understanding would help as would early intervention based on that knowledge ,
Does that knowledge exist ? PROBABLY somewhere.
Do polys know it? . Not according to their inaction before the moment or there lack of logic at the moment .
Iraq intervention crisis The Code words are bolded but are they magic or what?
Hon Julie Bishop (Australia) thinks we can educate young people to not be radicalised , the presumption is that the young people are dumb and easily led . Well maybe a few but you only have hope for changing their minds if you really understand what is on their minds and don't treat them as dumb . Poly 1 lost the point.
Secretary of State for the USA( America) says he looking for best practice as if the only way to solve problems is with some sort of sacred process ( modelled by industrywe presume but definitely as technological fix ) . People are not machines my friend . Go back and talk to each other and people on the ground or observers before you offend thinking people with a label -- like Julie's Poly 2 lost the point
The family at war with itself needs more than anything else--- understanding from outsiders . Their home is being wrecked and they probably really don't know why . Australia and America at least have some idea of where of home might be in the future because they have people who understand about sheep, cropping and retailing. Never is a better time for objectivity,, but who is helping our polys ACT early on this ?
Some say wars would never trouble the West if the determinists had there way . I say its them that prevent early intervention , so their simple ideas are more of a problem than they or those hiding in closets like to think.
- The determinists amongst us hope that if the fight is about too many people trying to live on the one patch, the problem would go away if they just killed each other .
- the determinists would have it that if we can stay away , the problem will go away . The Germans nearly had their way because the determinists nearly got their way in the good old USA in the 1940's
- the determinists treat people as expendable . Most countries can be fun to live in if they respect every one in them and use them to do something. Which side are the ideologues of the West on?
No such blinkered faith is for us - we have a tradition of trying to talk things through out of respect for people made in the image of God . That works .
OK so if we accept as the USA are NOW saying that its not about military intervention--- what is about ?
The advantage we have for a warring country/ countries is we can be a bit objective about what they are fighting over ; yet the dumb idea of the democrats is to pretend that if we give them elections they will suddenly stop fighting and they will have a wonderful thing called a democracy . Culture control is such a poor substitute for real respect ( which we need to model better) .
So don't ever run that quick fix crap again.
Are the fighters who come from Australia being radicalised?
No it is not just simply that ; Julia's false assumption is that religions create a haze ( thats 'easily removed ) when it in reality the framework in a world view is impossible to easily shift - it often creates clarity in confusion ( it still may not work but it is attractive when people are desperate for answers ) The young people on SBS last night have their minds switched on and until you talk about the realities of arguments in their own country, they are not going to listen.like the determinists is ignoring the critical role that worldview can and must play .Talk of " values ' just doesn't cut it when war is on - infact why talk at all ? Listening works better .
Our boys went to war when there was nothing better to do back home . They are doing the same,
What we can do to help them is to help find an economy ( not a political system ) that works . They don't know it but their commitment to the land issue is not helping them find new homes. The fact that the West can't see that means both Outsiders and Insiders are in a fog over what is happening and what to do about it ! The West has lost its zest for intervention and dumb determinism must share some blame
The problem is as big in the West as it is in the east .
If you are wise you stay out ; If you are really wise, you watch closely . If you are really really wise you wait ; , If you are really really really really wise you wait and act in the moment you choose - not the one the world chooses for you .
What starts wrong goes wrong quicker The problem is perspective and the solution is perspective ; Neither side have any but one side SHOULD HAVE it .
I have clearly not considered all the matters - hardly one.